The present location of ordnance made in Falkirk: smooth bore muzzle loading (SBML)
The attached table [Present location of Ordnance made in Falkirk] presents the current known location of over 170 pieces of ordnance made at the either the Carron Iron Works or at the Falkirk Iron Works. There will be many more out there and we would appreciate it if you could contact us to let us know the presence of any others – or to provide us with photographs.


Two cannons were loaned to the city in 1895 by A.R. Dickey, Depute-Minister of Militia and Defence. Photograph : Julia Chernushevich






Above: Cannon made by Carron Company, found at Rothesay Pier in 1995 on display in Rothesay Castle. Photograph: Charles Taylor




Above: Cannon made by Carron, a 32-pdr Blomefield with serial number 85156. Believed to have been in Orkney since 1860, according to an article in the Orkney Herald. It was used by the local Artillery volunteers, and was first fired on Queen Victoria’s birthday in 1861. It has been on its present site since at least the late 1950s and its carriage had suffered from the passing of time. Rot was quite advanced and it was getting to the point that it was unsafe. Because of Covid restrictions, the Army Reserve troop had not been able to travel to the mainland for training, so in the spring of 2021 they rebuilt the cannon carriage, copying the dimensions off the old carriage, using the original cast wheels and as much of the metal hardware as possible. Information and Photographs: Laurence Tait.


Above: Two cannons on a closed US Navy base in Puerto Rico. Sabana Seca US Navy Base was closed in 2003 due to political issues in the island. The cannons may have been in display and may have been used to protect the island from invasions during the late 1700’s and 1800’s. Puerto Rico was owned by Spain, but now a commonwealth of the US. Photo: Wilfredo Algarin.



29 replies on “Cannon Made in Falkirk”
Hi I’ve come across a 6 lb 1812 cannon made by Carron company in pendennis castle Falmouth
I’ve two pictures if you are interested in me sending them to you let me know you’re email address
Regards
Mark
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I have a hall marked medal with an inscription on the reverse ‘Presented to James Curlers for proficiency in ambulance work 1912’. Any information please?.
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Can you send us photographs of front and reverse of your medal please? Is there an inscription round the rim? Do you know anything about James Curlers? It would be good if you could send us a photo of the hallmark if that’s possible. From the hallmark we can tell the date of manufacture, where it was manufactured and the metal it is made of. email flhs.secretary@yahoo.co.uk
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Dear Sir,
I have a letter dated 1810 written by Joseph Stainton Manger, discussing wooden railway and Lord Elgin brick kilns.
Letter addressed to Robert Beaumont in Charleston.
John
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I have seen a carronade in PLymouth. It is overlooking the water as you reach the part of the town called the Barbican. The signage with it says it was made in Carron Works. That would be about fifteen years ago.
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There is a carronade on display in the museum in Karonga (Malawi, formerly Nyasaland). It has no inscriptions on the trunnions, but a crown indicates that it is of british origin. In addition, there are initials which read CW&C or GW&C or CW&Co or GW&Co. Is this gun made by Carron Works? What does the abbreviation mean? If you want I can send you pictures.
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Thank you for telling us about this gun. However, our expert says that it was not made in Carron. He says, “The initials are probably SW & Co for Samuel Walker and Company of Rotherham, which was another very large manufacturer. Photos might help to check that and I assume it was a Blomefield pattern gun.”
If you would like to send us your pictures, he might be able to tell you more.
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Found a cannon in eastern Pennsylvania that might be a 6 pounder made in Carron or SW & Co. Recovered by a diver in the Delaware bay near Philadelphia. Has a raised crown on the top of the rear of the cannon. Can send you pics if you tell me how and are interested.
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I have come across a 12 pounder sponge/rammer stamped with Carronade 12 P .. (12 pounder) M G 5. (Another 5 or possibly a 3) and WD with a mark underneath the WD… I was enquiring where I could sell or value the item and help with the Markings Etc I would be very grateful Thankyou
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Falkirk Local History Society is a charity with a remit to document and research the history of the Falkirk area. We cannot comment on valuations.
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We have a Carron Cannon from 1826 in Kirkwall, Orkney. I think it’s a 24 pounder. There’s a serial number on the left hand side above “Carron” and the year. Do you have, or know of anyone who would have details of what serial numbers went where? I can also send you some photos if you don’t have it in your records.
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Thank you, we would be delighted if you can send photos. Please email them to our Secretary at flhs.secretary@yahoo.co.uk. Unfortunately there does not seem to anyone keeping a full list and that is the reason why Falkirk Local History Society are collecting information. What is the serial number of the Carron Cannon in Kirkwall?
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A friend has a cauldron with the markings Falkirk 50. No handles or pouring lip, presume the 50 relates to 50 gals. Does anyone know what the intended use was? thanks
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Hi, I came across two cannons (dated 1776) on a closed US Navy base in Puerto Rico. I have pictures that I would like to share. Let me know if interested and where I can send them. Please contact me at: walgarin@gmail.com
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Thank you for contacting us. Please tell us how you know that the cannon were made by the Carron Company. It would be great if you could send photographs and include an image of the marked trunnions. Falkirk Local History Society Secretary’s email address is flhs.secretary@yahoo.co.uk
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Because they mark on the trunnions with the name of the company (Carron) dated and I guess the serial number. I just sent the pictures to the email above.
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Thank you, yes I got them. Would it be all right with you if I publish your photos on this page? As with the others, you will be given credit as photographer.
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I have a relative born in or around Rouen in France in 1834. Her father was a Robert Parker employed by Carron Iron Works.
Would you have any idea why Robert was working there at that time and why he would take his wife?
I’ve been to the records office in Rouen but they were unable to find a record of the birth.
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Falkirk Local History Society are not a family history society so I am afraid we cannot answer your questions. However, I can suggest that you look on the Scotland’s People website, which gives all the Scottish Statutory Records (Births, Marriages and Deaths plus Census Returns and other governmental documentation). You will be able to search these yourself here : https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
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Hello, I found a carronade at a park in Ohio, U.S.A. I have some pictures I’d like to share to help figure out when it was made and where it came from. Appears to be a 24pounder.
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Hello, Jared. Thank you. Can you please email me your photos at flhs.secretary@yahoo.co.uk and hopefully we will be able to tell you a bit about it. There should be numerical markings on the trunnions or quoin patch. If you write to me, please advise if we have your permission to use your photo(s) on this page.
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Hello, Our local museum has been offered a cannon/carronade by a local hotel. As the hotel company know nothing about teh background of the gun I approached the Royal Artillery at Woolwich who helped identify the gun as manufactured by Carron in Falkirk in 1790. Is there anything else that can be learnt from its serial number 17734? Thank you. Kevin
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Hello, Kevin. I passed your question to Geoff Bailey, who is collecting information about Falkirk cannon. Geoff says, “One immediate problem is that the serial number 17734 would place it in the year 1777 and not 1790. This is early. So perhaps the number is actually 47734?
Are you able to take photographs of both trunnions and email them to me so he can make a more informed assessment? My email address is flhs.secretary@yahoo.co uk
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Actually, you are right. It made me look much closer at the serial number, I believe it is 47734. Sorry.
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Can’t help with actual guns or photos but just a bit of history from my research into the career of William Bligh. Only two Naval ships were fitted out entirely with the carronade, HMS Rainbow (unable to trace any detail) and HMS Glatton. Captain Henry Trollope served as captain of the Rainbow in 1787. Not yet clear if he arranged for this unusual step or not. When HMS Glatton was being built, he was appointed to commission her and arranged for her to be fitted with 24 32 pound and 24 64 pound carronades. Effectively she outgunned HMS Victory for sheer weight of her broadside. Bligh was only in command for a month but was present with her in the Battle of. Copenhagen in 1802.
Whatever his faults as a man, Bligh was a fearless and highly skilled seaman. There are no details of his actions at the battle but Nelson commended his seamanship in his dispatches after the battle. Glatton saw a huge amount of action under Trollop and a number of other captains. As an experiment it was obviously not a great success and Glatton remained the only other ship so equipped. She was eventually refitted with standard armament and sadly ended up being sunk off Harwich to make a breakwater. No idea what happened to her carronades, but probably used in more limited numbers on other ships.
Hope this is of some interest.
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Thank you for the information from everyone which is much appreciated. Sadly the museum floor was not structurally able to take the weight of the cannonade and the local council did not want it placed elsewhere. Consequently it is likely that it will pass to a neighbouring council who plan to place it alongside a memorial of Sir John Moore, facing the English Channel. If this happens I will take a photo and pass it to you.
Kevin
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There is a Carron at Whitsand Bay Holiday Park, Torpoint Cornwall PL101JZ
I have a photograph. 75506 1809
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Thank you. Is there a number on the cannon? Would you please email your photo to flhs.secretary@yahoo.co.uk
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Yes, I gave the number and date in my original message.
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